Saturday, August 13, 2011

Socialism versus Capitalism

There has been a lot of bashing of Capitalism after the collapse in 2008.  Many people blame Capitalism for our current economic problems.

Some notable critics include Nouriel Roubini in this article, where he states:
“Karl Marx got it right, at some point capitalism can destroy itself...We thought markets worked. They’re not working.”
Other critics include Michael Moore when he produced the movie "Capitalism:  A Love Story".  He blames Capitalism for the cause of the financial collapse and recession.

Their criticisms are debatable.

Michael Moore

Michael Moore's film, "Fahrenheit 9/11" was spot on and excellent.  "Capitalism:  A Love Story" was an excellent movie as well.   It was very entertaining and thought provoking.  It makes the audience laugh, cry, angry and frustrated.

Moore advocated Socialism over Capitalism.

However, as his movie points out, the problems are corruption and white collar crime, not Capitalism.  Moore's film censured:
  1. corruption
  2. white collar crime
  3. injustice
  4. bailout of banks
  5. control of government by corporations and ex-Wall Street executives
  6. monopolies (he quoted Roosevelt and Adam Smith censuring monopolies)
Yes, 1, 2 and 3 are rampant.  However, these happen in Socialist and Communist societies as well.  Capitalism does not advocate any of these.  In fact, Capitalism cannot work if these are rampant.

4, 5 and 6 are more related to Socialism, not Capitalism.  Moore's film is actually critical of Socialism, not Capitalism.

Socialist governments believe in intervening and helping businesses survive, such as bail outs.  Capitalism does not believe in bail outs.  It believes that if the business is incompetent, it should die.  The more involvement from the government, the more socialist that country is, until you have the extreme which is communism.

Therefore, the more intertwining of government with corporations, the more socialist it is.  True Capitalism and Free Markets believe in separation of businesses from government.  When Wall Street manipulates Washington with bribery, this might be corruption, but it is not Capitalism.  Corruption exists in every country.  The leaders of many socialist countries are corrupt and far more wealthy than their subjects.  Look at Kim Jong Il, Lenin, Mao and Castro.

Moore's film was right to censure monopolies.  Monopolies eliminate competition, and competition is fundamental to capitalism.  However, socialist countries, especially extremely socialist countries which are communist countries, have a high proclivity to reduce or eliminate competition and have many more monopolies than capitalist countries.

However, Moore supports unions.  The purpose of unions is to eliminate competition by forming virtual monopolies (read more).  Therefore, it is hypocritical for Moore to censure monopolies and support unions.

If competition is being eliminated, then this means that Wall Street is becoming less capitalist and more socialist.  This is a problem and the problem is that we have too much socialism.

Moore advocated Democracy over Capitalism.  This is not an either/or.  If you have more Capitalism, it does not mean that you have less Democracy.  Democracy is a Political system, not an Economic system.  Capitalism is an Economic system, not a Political system.  You can have Democracy with Capitalist, Socialist or Communist economic systems.  Examples include the U.S., Canada and Europe, which have become socialistic.

You can have a Dictatorship or Authoritarian political system with Capitalist, Socialist or Communist economic systems.  China used to have an Authoritarian political system with Communist economic system.  It now has an Authoritarian political system with an extreme Capitalistic economic system.  Many people still think that China is communistic.  It is not.  It is more Capitalistic than the U.S. and thanks to Capitalism, the Chinese middle class has become far wealthier (read more).

Furthermore, Democracy is a cause of our debt problems (read more).

Moore advocates socialism and cites Europe (and Japan) as role models.  These countries have fake wealth.  Socialism usually involves increased spending, borrowing, deficits, debts and size of government.  Japan's debt (as a % of GDP) is the highest in the world.  Many European countries have higher debts than the U.S.  They have massive, unsustainable debt levels.  They steal from their children and grandchildren through government debts to fund their standard of living.  The U.S. debt is out of control and still growing.  The U.S. has become poorer and will become even poorer because it has become more Socialistic and less Capitalistic.  Unfortunately, the U.S. will become even poorer because of corruption and crime as well.

Capitalism is like a Hockey game.  Both systems motivate the players to work hard and innovate because those who are the best will be handsomely rewarded with money and recognition.  With sufficient rules and rule enforcement, which both need and advocate, both will produce amazing results.  However, without rules and rule enforcement, the players will not hesitate to be violent and injure each other to win.

Wall Street has insufficient rules and rule enforcement.  They are tripping and punching their opponents to get ahead and the rules have either been removed or not enforced.  We think Wall Street is rife with crime, fraud and corruption (read more:  Wall Street).

Moore criticized Wall Street for lobbying and spending money on Washington to ease regulations.  Moore was right to criticize this.  As mentioned, this is corruption, not Capitalism.  An analogy is if a hockey player gives money to the referee to be easy with the rules and penalties.  Capitalism does not advocate this.  When this happens, Capitalism breaks down and the country becomes poorer.


Critics complain that companies have become too big and powerful.  Hence, they control the politicians.  This is a valid criticism.  In fact, we agree that this is an issue (read more about lobbyists in Democracy is a Myth).  However, this is not advocated by true Capitalism.  This is corruption and the politics need to be changed.

Contrary to popular belief, capitalism does not necessarily advocate or equate to "big business".  When companies become too big, they reduce competition.  If they use their money to influence politicians, they might be able to thwart competition even more.  As an example, if they become so big that they end up with an oligopoly, there is very little competition.  Let us take the hypothetical extreme where a company becomes so big that it is the only company in its industry.  This means that the company has become a monopoly, with no competitors.

When companies approach this stage, we have less Capitalism, not more.  Competition is fundamental to capitalism.  A monopoly is the anti-thesis to Capitalism.  If companies are too big, we need to split them up like the way the government split up AT&T a few decades ago.

Greedy Capitalists

Critics complain that capitalists are greedy.  They are correct.  Capitalists are greedy.  However, do not be disillusioned into thinking that the majority of the population are not greedy.  The most important issue to voters is money.  Due to voters' greed, voters have stolen trillions from children, far more than any Wall Street crook can hope to steal.  Everybody wants more money.  The main difference between the capitalists and the socialists is that the capitalists found a way to make lots of it.  If they have too much and the majority have too little, then it is the government's fault.  It is the government's job to distribute wealth, not the capitalist's.

If rich people are unfairly lobbying or manipulating politicians to keep income rates unfairly low, then this is a problem of excessive corruption and the political system needs to be changed, not the economic system.


Here is an executive summary of what happened to the U.S. economy:
  1. Cause of Great Recession:  Collapse of Banks
  2. Cause of Bank Collapse:  Collapse of Housing Bubble
  3. Cause of Housing Bubble:  Massive Socialist Manipulation
The main cause of the Great Recession is the collapse of the housing bubble, fake economy and banks.  The main cause of the bankruptcies and meltdown of the banks is the declining value of their assets (mortgages) and defaults on those mortgages.  Their assets plunged in value when house prices collapsed and homeowners stopped paying their mortgages.  House prices collapsed when the housing bubble collapsed.  The causes of the housing bubble were:
  • According to this article, the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA), a socialist policy, created the meltdown.  The CRA required banks to extend loans to high-risk, low-income borrowers.  These borrowers bought homes that they couldn't afford and therefore they eventually defaulted.  There is debate about whether the CRA contributed to the meltdown.  However, many of those who refute the CRA as a cause, are employees of the government.  (Read more)
  • Interest rates kept too low by the Federal Reserve in the early 2000's.  In fact, real interest rates were negative (interest rate was lower than inflation).
  • Washington's socialist policy, since two decades ago, to help every American realize the American Dream of home ownership.  From this policy, Washington created Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and gave them $1 trillion to give out as mortgages, especially to low-income, higher-risk borrowers.  This enabled crooked Wall Street and Mortgage Brokers to take advantage of the situation by creating CDOs (Collateralized Debt Obligations).  On top of that, Washington implemented many programs to get Americans to buy homes.  Read "Housing, the Most Manipulated Market in the World".  The housing market is so manipulated by the government that one can argue that it is similar to Communist Russia's "central planning" of the economy.  Nobody can argue that housing was not a huge socialist program.
The corruption and fraud on Wall Street and at multiple levels of American society, exacerbated the housing bubble.  (Read:  How U.S. defrauded billions from the world)

The fake economy was created by excessive household debts, spurred on by low interest rates and government manipulation.  Now that households are de-leveraging by reducing their debts, the economy is shrinking.  Since we still have huge debts, the economy is still fake and we are still not at a "real", sustainable level, where we enjoy what we earn and deserve (living within our means).

Therefore, the root cause of the Great Recession is socialism, not free-market capitalism.

Debt Crisis

Furthermore, due to the high public and private debt levels, the economy will continue to be anemic or even go into another recession.  As explained in this USA Inc. report, the main causes of the U.S. debt problem are the entitlement programs, which include Social Security (old age pension), Medicare (free healthcare for the elderly) and Medicaid (free healthcare for the poor).  They account for 57% of total federal government expenses, up from 25% 40 years ago and are growing the fastest.  These are socialist programs.  Similarly, the cause of the high debts in other Western countries are due to socialist programs as well.  For Canada and most European countries, the percentage of the federal budget spent on socialist programs is higher than 57%.

The amount that the U.S. federal government spends, averaged 3% of GDP from 1790 until 1930.  Since 1930 until 2010, this has ballooned to 24% of GDP.  The government does not create wealth.  It takes wealth from people who create it and distributes it to others.  Therefore, the larger the government, the less people there are creating wealth.  In the U.S., only three out of four people are creating wealth.  This is socialism.  The extreme is communism where the government controls nearly 100% of the GDP.

Contrary to popular belief, the U.S., Europe, Canada and Australia are socialist, not capitalist countries.

Many people cite Scandinavia as a success story for socialism.  Firstly and contrary to popular belief, there are only three countries in Scandinavia:  Norway, Sweden and Denmark.  Secondly, Norway is rich, not because of socialism or capitalism.  Norway won the lottery by sitting on oil.  Like Saudi Arabia, Norway does not need to work for the next 100 years.  This money spills over to Sweden and Denmark, where the three countries are closely linked by trade, language and blood.  Thirdly, Sweden (with only 9.5 million people) has $1 trillion and Denmark (with only 5.6 million people) has $626 billion of gross external debt (source).  Their public debt is reasonable relative to other countries, but they still have public debts nevertheless.  Any country that has debt means that it borrowed from the future to spend on its social programs and to support today's fake economy.

Every country in history that has tried socialism, has succeeded in bringing prosperity to a portion of their citizens in the short run (which can be many years).  Without fail, every one of these countries have become poorer in the long run.  This track record is unbroken in earth's history.

Extreme Socialism

Communism, which is an extreme form of socialism, drove Russia and China into poverty. China was so poor in the 1950's that millions of Chinese starved to death.

Because of capitalism, China has increased their wealth many, many folds.  People talk about their poor, rural peasants.  Yes, they are poor compared to the millionaires created every hour in China.  (Millionaires were unheard of a few decades ago.)  However, because of capitalism, these peasants are now many, many times richer than they were 50 years ago.  Nobody is starving.  They have ample, cheap food to eat.  They are now eating red meat.  They are now buying cell phones and decent clothes and eventually will buy computers.  Therefore, you can say that the peasants are rich, relative to the Chinese population under extreme socialism.

Economic System

There are thousands of different types of systems in this world.  Each system shapes and motivates behaviour in different ways.  If you want your sales rep to sell more, you increase his/her commission.  If you do not want people to park on the street, you hand out parking tickets.  The capitalist system motivates people to take risks and start businesses, by rewarding them with riches if they succeed.  The socialist system retards that motivation.  The main creators of wealth for any country in the world, are entrepreneurs.

Entrepreneurs create businesses and jobs.  They create wealth not only for themselves, but also for their customers, employees, shareholders, governments and therefore essentially for every other person in society.  Without computer entrepreneurs, such as Steve Jobs and Bill Gates, you would not be reading this article on your computer.  Without phone entrepreneurs, you would not be able to listen to music or chat with your friends from your classroom or office.  Without car entrepreneurs as Henry Ford, you would never enjoy the ride of a car.  Without clothing entrepreneurs, you would not be wearing the clothes that you are wearing.  Without restaurant entrepreneurs, you would not have enjoyed the hundreds of different cuisines.  Without entrepreneurs, you would not have most of the things that you have.

Yes, most of those entrepreneurs are rich, very rich.  They are the richest people in the world.  But without entrepreneurs, your economy would not be wealthy.  If your economy was not wealthy, you would not be wealthy, no matter what you do.  The reason our doctors make thirty times more than doctors in Cuba, is because our economy is so much wealthier, not because our doctors are thirty times smarter.  The reason our baseball players make 1,000 times more than baseball players in Cuba, is because our economy is so much wealthier, not because our baseball players are 1,000 times better.  The reason anybody, including barbers, accountants, bus drivers, lawyers and plumbers, makes the money he/she does, is due to the economy.  The reason welfare recipients get any money, is due to the economy.

Our economy is wealthy because of entrepreneurs.

A capitalist system encourages people to become entrepreneurs.  A socialist system reduces that encouragement.  A country cannot become wealthy and stay wealthy if there are no entrepreneurs.

Instead of spending more money to foster and nourish entrepreneurs, we spend the far majority of our money on socialist programs.  In fact, we spend so much more than we can afford that we have huge, unsustainable debts.

The longer we stay socialistic, the poorer we will become.  This is guaranteed.  You just have to look around the world and see what other countries' experiences have been with socialism versus capitalism.  However, we never seem to learn from history.

Every country that has become more corrupt, has become poorer in the long run.  This track record is also unbroken in earth's history.

Every country that has adopted Capitalism, has become wealthier.  This track record is also unbroken in earth's history.

Here is a short story to explain the difference between socialists and capitalists:
A group of socialists are standing on a street corner.  A group of capitalists are standing on the opposite street corner. 
A Rolls Royce drives through the intersection. 
The socialists say:  "Look at that bastard with the Rolls Royce!  Let's go take that Rolls Royce away from that driver and share that wealth amongst all of us!" 
The capitalists say:  "Look at that bastard with the Rolls Royce!  Let's go figure out a way to make enough money so that we can all buy Rolls Royces!"
If a country is filled with socialists, they would be trying to share everybody else's wealth.  Nobody would be creating wealth.  This is why socialists countries eventually become poor.

If a country is filled with capitalists, everybody would be creating wealth.  This is why capitalist countries eventually become rich.

Here is an excellent explanation of Socialism that has been circulating through e-mails (author unknown):
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class.  That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.  
The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan".  All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A...(substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by all) 
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B.  The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.  As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little. 
The second test average was a D!  No one was happy.  When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F. 
As the tests proceeded the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. 
To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.

Could not be any simpler than that.

These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment: 
  1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
  2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
  3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
  4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
  5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
In a controlled environment, where all other factors are removed, a socialist country will continue to become poorer.  What governments around the world have been doing, to counter this, is to steal from children to create fake economies and fake wealth.  This can maintain a fake level of prosperity for a number of years.  Eventually, countries hit thresholds on how much they can steal from children and then they become poorer.  Europe serves as a good example of this.

Neither Extreme

We are not advocating extreme Capitalism either.  We believe that there should be some socialism if a country can afford it and does not steal from children to pay for it.  Unfortunately, most countries cannot afford it, or they are spending too much on social programs, as exemplified by their budget deficits.  Since most Western countries have substantial tax revenue, by running deficits and debts, this shows that their social programs have ballooned out of control and they are stealing from children to pay for them.  This shows that most Western countries have become very socialistic.  So extreme Capitalism is a far-away worry.

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Steve Jobs


  1. Capitalism is both: an economic and political systems.

  2. The difference between socialism and capitalism
    is who owns the means of production.

    Socialism: the state is the main owner
    Capitalism: private ownership

  3. bail outs, community welfare programs, etc. does not represent socialism. All that "free money" is just hand outs. There is no "Socialist Republic of Canada" - all means of production are private owned.

    China is a socialist country, all key industries are state owned, profits are used to finance social programs like education, healthcare, etc.

    Canada is a capitalist country, profits are used to reinvest and to buy luxury, all for individual benefit.


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